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or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported. signs include abdominal pain and yellowing skin or eyes. tell your doctor about all your medicines, including those for migraine and while on cymbalta, call right away if you have high fever, confusion and stiff muscles or serious allergic skin reactions like blisters, peeling rash, hives, or mouth sores to address possible life-threatening conditions. talk about your alcohol use, liver disease and before you reduce or stop cymbalta. dizziness or fainting may occur upon standing. take the next step. talk to your doctor. cymbalta can help. i am as frustrated and angry as anyone with the flawed launch of healthcare.gov. so let me say directly to these americans, you deserve better. i apologize. i'm accountable to you for fixing these problems, and i'm
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committed to earning your confidence back by fixing the site. >> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," taking the blame. hhs secretary kathleen sebelius in the hot seat today, acknowledging the rollout is, in her words, a debacle, but facing new questions now about whether the website exposes millions of americans to a security risk of their personal data. >> don't you think you have the obligation to tell the american people that we're going to put you in this system, but beware, your information is likely to be vulnerable. would you commit today, secretary, to shut down the system and do an end-to-end security test? >> no, sir. if you read the memo -- >> oh, i have read it. >> it goes on to say that weekly testing of devices, including interface testing daily, weekly, scans are going on. this is a temporary -- >> that's not what the memo says, number one. number two, the contractors will tell you it's not happening. >> mr. chairman, point of order.
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i think witness ought to be allowed to answer. >> spies like us, facing senate threats to curb their powers. u.s. intelligence chiefs push back against charges they've gone rogue for spying on angela merkel and other leaders. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, our intelligence services, our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. i have to say, chairman rodgers, that some of this reminds me a lot of the classic movie "casablanca." my god, there's gambling going on here. it's the same kind of thing. >> and our big headliners today. former hhs secretary from the clinton administration, fda commissioner, housing secretary, budget conferee, and congressman peter king. and because we all need a smile today, we will show you how this little boy stole the spotlight
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and became one of pope francis' youngest and most charming apostles. and good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington, where kathleen sebelius fell on her sword for the obama administration today, apologizing to the american people, acknowledging the critical flaws within the health care enrollment website, and it happened under her watch. >> hold me accountable for the debacle. i'm responsible. we did not adequately do end-to-end testing. we were anxious to get the website up and running and functional, which we clearly have failed to do. i know that the only way i can restore confidence that we get it right is to get it right. >> donna served as health and human services secretary during
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the clinton administration and is now the president of the university of miami. donna, great to see you. thank you very much for being with us. well, you could certainly identify with what kathleen sebelius went through. a former governor of kansas put on the spotlight. what is your perspective from florida, where a lot of people are complaining, for instance, about being kicked off their current insurance. i know you have been a supporter of obama care, but this rollout, could this have been prevented? >> well, obviously kathleen sebelius, who did a very good job today, i thought, took responsibility for the implementation that didn't take place that she hoped had taken place. i would say this. it's difficult to explain to people why someone would get a letter that says we're taking you off your health insurance, and in florida they actually said, but you're going to be able to get better health
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insurance because you're going to be able to apply for this new health insurance. you're not going to lose the one you have until you have the opportunity to sign up for the affordable care act. here at least, i think blue cross blue shield in particular was careful in their correspondence. but it's very difficult for people to understand that we're talking about the individual market and about large numbers of people who don't have health insurance. that's what the affordable care act is about, to cover these people. for those on the individual market, many of whom don't have good health insurance, many of whom would find out if they had a catastrophic problem that they'd go bankrupt because they did have caps on their insurance that they're going to be in a better situation with a new insurance that's coming online. i think kathleen sebelius, the secretary did a very good job trying to explain that today. there will be more explanation every day.
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they have enough time to fix the website. they have enough time to explain to people that if you got one of these letters, you're going to be able to sign up for health insurance. you're not going to be uncovered. and you're going to have some choices. a very large number of people who are getting these letters are going to get some subsidies so they can afford to buy health insurance, and a lot of them are going to pay less for a much more comprehensive policy. >> but it's very clear when the president said, if you like your insurance, you won't lose it, you can stick with it. in all of the messaging, all of the speeches all summer on the signature of his administrative legacy, really, his most important legacy, he took a big political risk in putting so much on this. the fact is they should have explained, should they not, that some people will pay more and that some people will be forced off their old insurance, their bare bones insurance, older
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people, for instance, who don't want maternity and prenatal care, who don't want many of these benefits, they won't have that option of going with a plan that no longer meets the test. >> well, first of all, most people don't have that option now. 95% of the people in this country who get their insurance through their employer get coverage if they're a male, for maternity coverage, and if they're a female, they get coverage for viagra. let's be fair here. comprehensive coverage means that we all pay for things that we don't use. we pay for insurance we might not use. the whole point is you never know when you need it. and you cover it for some things you'll never get. if you never get cancer, you still cover for cancer because someone else may get it. that's the purpose of insurance. so i think it's unfair to suggest that there's insurance in this country in which -- real
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insurance that's comprehensikpc in which you can pick and choose what you need in the future. to be fair, i think we need comprehensive insurance for everyone in this country or the rest of us that have comprehensive insurance end up paying for them. >> now, the big privacy issues that were rolled out today at this hearing -- and there were serious questions raised. this is a memo the associated press had obtained to marilyn tavenner. it says, from a security perspective, the aspects of the system that were not tested due to the ongoing development exposed a level of uncertainty that can be deemed as a high risk for the health care website for the security of people's personal information. and there was, as congressman rodgers was saying to sebelius at the hearing today, there was no end-to-end testing of the website to make sure, and there isn't as new code is being developed and add ed to make
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these fixes, the code itself is not being tested and there's no end-to-end testing. that is a serious problem. >> well, first of all, privacy has to be protected. people's social security numbers have to be protected in any kind of government website. we have lots of government programs in which we protect privacy. this is not rocket science. we are in an age in which we have testing that works for the medicare program, for the medicaid program, for welfare, for head start. there are lots of government programs, large-scale government programs in which we protect private information. there's no reason why this program doesn't have that kind of protection, and it will have that kind of protection from the assurance of the secretary and from the president. >> thank you so much, donna. thanks for being with us from miami today. and in our first look at a new nbc news wall street journal
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poll, the full poll will be unveiled tonight, we're seeing just how the botched rollout of healthcare.gov is perceived across the nation. it's a mix of opinions. nearly equal amongst americans believing that there are short-term issues that can be corrected, long-term issues that cannot be fixed, and those who say it's just too soon to make a judgment call. joining me now for our daily fix is chris cillizza. chris, you watch eed hearing. you've taken a look at this poll. we know there's more to come in the poll tonight that chuck todd will have. where do we stand now? is this fixable or has this become, you know, a major problem in redefining this president and this administration? >> well, you know, andrea, i would say based on the poll, the question you just released, i do think it is sort of an up in the air question. you have roughly equal margins of people saying the website problem is a problem that can be fixed and is not indicative of
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broader problems with the law. you have 30-ish percent saying it's indicative of broader issues. that's the sort of rub here politically speaking. is this about a website that everyone has acknowledged is not working the way it should, or is it sort of the leading edge of a broader definition that the law is just not ready for primetime? if it's the former, i'm not sure how damaging it is politically. but if it's the latter, you're going to hear a lot about health care, healthcare.gov and the law more broadly in 2014. remember, this is an issue that animates the republican base like none other. base politics matter much more in a midterm election with lower turnout than a presidential. >> we saw the usual theater of a congressional hearing. both parties back and forth. everyone had their very rehearsed one liners. let's watch. >> some people like to drive a ford, not a ferrari.
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some people like to drink out of a red solo cup and others crystal stem. you're taking away their choice. >> unlike chicken little, my colleagues are rooting for this guy to fall. >> dorothy, at some point in the movie, turns to her little dog toto and says, toto, we're not in kansas anymore. well, madam secretary, while you're from kansas, we're not in kansas anymore. >> i know we're not in kansas, but i do believe increasingly we're in oz because of what i see here. >> everybody's got their movie analogies. >> i love "the wizard of oz" references all over the polilac. >> kathleen sebelius was really caught in between. there were a number of moments where there was nothing she could have said that would have gotten her out of that spot because she was being put out there. it does make one think about the way this white house lets people sort of answer for the problems when we know that so much of this is done at the white house level and not at the cabinet
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level. i want to ask you about upcoming fights in the senate over confirmations. we're seeing a lot now from potential 2016 republican candidates like rand paul. his latest target, janet yellen's confirmation. he said his long-held and his father's long-held opposition to the federal reserve is going to cause him to put a hold on janet yellen's confirmation. she's supposed to have her hearing next week. there could be no more important economic confirmation process than the chair of the federal reserve. you know, maybe this can be resolved, but rand paul is certainly showing his forceful campaign projections. >> well, think about if they're not the two most memorable moments on the republican side, on the positive side in 2013, they're certainly up there. rand paul's filibuster on drones and ted cruz's call it what you want extended speech in
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opposition to obama care. both of those speeches elevated those two men in republican political circles. ted cruz went to the iowa over the weekend. by all accounts, many of my friends who were there wrote it was sort of a hero's welcome. i've written and talked to journalists there who said if they held the iowa caucus today, ted cruz would probably win. the incentive then is to hold things up, to take stands on principles and not worry so much about anything else because that politically right now in the republican party is incredibly powerful. >> but chris, you can be powerful and you can take these stands and get a lot of attention in iowa, but as rachel maddow showed last night, if you're rand paul, it's the second night in a row she's shown he's been plagiarizing from wikipedia in his speeches. >> the wikipedia entry for stand and deliver describes the main plot of the film this way.
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quote, in the area of east los angeles, california, in 1982 in an environment that values a quick fix over education and learning, a new teacher at garfield high school. that's wikipedia. here's rand paul. >> in the area of east l.a. in 1982 in an environment that values a quick fix on education over learning, he was a new math teacher at garfield high school. >> it's just like "gatica." rand paul is just reading wikipedia and passing it off as if it's his own words. >> and this is on teleprompter. >> yeah, that's a mistake that -- i think this is evidence you have to be careful if you're rand paul, ted cruz, or anybody running for president, you can't go too far too fast. the spotlight is on you much more -- i mean, i tell everyone who starts working for "the post" and for us, wikipedia is not a primary source. you certainly can't pull large
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sentences from it. that is a danger for rand paul. i would say, look, i think rand paul is a very serious presidential candidate. many people disagree with me. i would say, however, this is someone who was not in elected office, andrea, prior to winning that senate seat. this is not someone tested on the national stage. things like this probably will continue to happen. >> well, if they are going to continue to happen, he's got big trouble ahead. >> agree. >> thank you very much, chris cillizza. see you later. and meet one of the pope's smallest and certainly gutsiest fans. look at this. the pope celebrating family day over the weekend. a child, a young boy, wanders on to the stage and unfazed by the crowds, the security, or anything else for that matter, this boy in yellow as he's come to be known, hugs and kisses -- look at him hugging the pope's leg as he delivers his sermon to thousands gathered in st. peter's square. later, he even stole the pontiff's seat. not even candy could lure the little boy away.
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the white house was bathed in a glow of pink the other night. this is all part of breast cancer awareness month. breast cancer is the second leading cause of cancer-related death for women. 40,000 will die from the disease this year alone. as the month comes to a close, i want to take a moment to look at some of the advantages in the fight for a cure. joining me now is the commissioner of the food and drug administration. welcome. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> there have been some big advances in recent years in fda
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approved drugs that can actually help women with advanced met static cancer or at other stages of the disease. >> that's right. the science is advancing very quickly. we really understand a lot more about the underlying nature of disease. that means we can have more targeted therapies, and we can make more of a difference in the lives of women. so it's a very exciting time. we've approved in the last couple years several important new therapies for breast cancer treatment. the first therapy for early breast cancer was diagnosed last year as well. so it's an exciting time. >> you've just released this report, which is paving the way for personalized medicine. >> that's right. >> you just alluded to this. talk more about personalized medicine and what is now possible through some of these new drug therapies and genetic testing. >> personalized medicine has always been the goal of medicine. the right drug at the right dose at the right time for the right patient. but now that science has gotten
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so much better, we recognize, for example, with breast cancer that it's not just one cancer. it's a lot of different subtypes. the different types of tumor respond differently to different treatment interventions. so now we're doing studies and working obviously with academia and industry to develop products that actually target people with certain cancer types and then that therapy works more effectively. so, you know, cancer treatments, as you know, can have a lot of toxicities. if we can figure out who's really going to benefit from a treatment and give them that, that makes all the difference. >> what about the genetic testing also for inherited genes and certainly those that have been most common of the jewish
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heritage. i've heard also of studies of a doctor in chicago working on something that afflicts women of nigerian descent. i don't know how many other groups are also affected. >> what we're finding out as we're applying the new science of genomics to breast cancer, the different cancers are very different. you can tell them apart by certain kinds of genetic markers. so the diagnostic tests are very important that tell you what type of cancer you have so that we can, as i was saying, target therapy. so it's really a whole new era. we want early diagnosis, and we want that diagnosis to also include this look at what kind of cancer do you actually have, not just breast cancer, but what subtype and what's the right treatment for you. >> what issue did angelina jolie raise by making the decision preventively to have the
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mastectomy? >> she certainly raised awareness both about the broad issue of breast cancer, but she also focused in on this issue that certain women have risk factors that increase their likelihood of getting breast cancer over the course of their lifetime. some of those risk factors are, you know, things like age or time of having children, whatever. but some of those risk factors also have to do with, you know, inherited traits. some of those can be identified with tests. so, you know, she had a mother with breast cancer, and she had a test that showed that she had a certain trait. she made some very courageous decisions that were her decisions about how she wanted to proceed. one thing i do want to mention, though, is that from the fda perspective and from patients and medical providers' perspective as well, we want to make sure those tests are accurate so when you make those hard medical decisions, it's on the basis of good information.
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>> that means getting a second opinion or having some way -- i mean, it's your job and the f fda's job to make sure the testing is accurate. >> the truth is, there are some diagnostic tests out there that aren't approved by the fda, that aren't under our purview. we think it's important that any test that's going to be the basis of an important medical decision, that it is tested and evaluated to make sure it does what it says it does, what it's intended to do. also, that the link between the particular genetic mark per, other bio marker really does correlate with a risk for disease. >> doctor, very useful reminder there are a lot of good things the government is doing. you have a hard job. thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you. and boston could clench the series tonight. the cardinals got off to a rough start, getting stuck on the tarmac in st. louis last night.
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their team plane loaded with the players and their families was grounded because of mechanical problems. the only thing flying were the cardinals' tweets, inud clooing this one from matt carpenter. on the bright side, really getting to know some of my teammates' children #bonding #cardsplaneproblems. the team eventually switched to a different plane arrived late in boston. this photoshopped image of will middlebrooks obstructing the plane's departure is making the rounds on twitter today. way to go.
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rebuild some trust, find a path to compromise, and work together to create jobs and boost our fragile economy. >> well, it's a start. senate and house budget members met this morning, the first step in a process americans certainly hope ends with more fiscal stability, not another shutdown. the very least promise is those shutdowns could become a thing of the past. regular budgets, perhaps? senator, thank you for joining me. >> good to be with you. >> good to be with you. are we talking about a short-term fix to be something that gets us through, you know, past december 13th, or are you beginning to talk about the long term, the big picture? >> andrea, today was the opening meeting. so what we're really trying to do is talk about can we do something for the full 2014 and then maybe set some pathways that would take us beyond that.
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so, you know, i want to do as big a deal as we can. i want to confound the cynics who think we can't do this. this is the first budget conference in a divided congress since 1986. so we have our work cut out for us. i was really pleased with the meeting this morning. you know this. you've seen meetings like this. when you hear a lot of nonnegotiables put on the table at the start, it's almost always not going to work out. that did not happen this morning. that's positive. >> that certainly is a good thing. i want to also ask you about the nsa and the concerns about the nsa becoming a rogue agency. reports today from "the washington post" denied by keith alexander just now, apparently, that the nsa, that our spies are actually unknowingly going into google and yahoo! centers and retrieving data. where does it end? >> well, i have grave concerns about this, andrea. there was a report that i saw that the taps of the phone may have even tapped the pope's
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phone. we've got to get to the bottom of this. i'll tell you, i have a suspicion about one of the things that's at the root of this. and it is the fact that the authorization for the use of military force passed one week after 9/11 is so broad and open-ended. as you know, the language in that authorization authorized the president to take action against those who committed the 9/11 attacks or their affiliates. that language, or their affiliates, without any limitation in time or geography, has led to a whole series of programs that i think are too open ended. one of the things that i want to explore as we look at correcting these serious, serious breaches of the public trust is whether part of the problem is the open-ended nature of the authorization and whether we now need to, as we're entering into the last year of any combat operations in afghanistan, whether we need to dramatically narrow that. my suspicion is if we do, some of the programs, whether it's
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nsa or drone issues that have been controversial, actually get much easier to control. >> you remember the foreign relations committee. how grave are the concerns that relations with germany, with angela merkel, the most powerful figure in europe, are going to be really strained by this? the german officials are right now at the white house meeting with national security officials. they are not happy. >> we are very worried about this, andrea. and in particular for this president. you know, this president, his foreign policy doctrine, and i think it's a good thing, has relied very strongly on partnerships. this has not been a president who's wanted to cowboy into situations on his own. we will always defend ourselves and our interests unilaterally, but from the very beginning of his presidency, he has wisely, in my way of thinking, emphasized the need to build partnerships. if you're going to try to do that, then instances like this can be particularly corrosive.
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so the president needs to, with our allies and with the american public, be very clear about what has happened but also about the dramatic steps that are going to be taken to put these programs back into some acceptable form. the american public knows that we've got major security challenges. we have to keep the american public safe. but right now, you know, i think i saw a washington post editorial that said the nsa is losing the benefit of the doubt. they get the benefit of the doubt because they're keeping us safe, but these recent revelations are causing them to lose the benefit of the doubt, and with cannot afford to let that happen. >> and here at home in virginia, you have got bill clinton practically moved into virginia, campaigning for his friend. the vice president is going. the president is going. all this looks very much like virginia democrats are worried they don't have this thing looked at all. there's a new quinnipiac today showing 45%, 41%. that's a very narrow margin for
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a race in which there will be low turnout. republicans, as you know, republicans vote more than democrats. >> andrea, i won for six points, which for me isn't a squeaker. f me that's a landslide. but you're right. virginia has a particular electoral history where we will put 70% turnout out there in a presidential race. one year later in a governor's race, it might be 48% or 45%. in 2009, the turnout was only 40%. when the turnout drops, that affects us maybe a little more than the other guys. the good thing about the mcauliffe campaign is from the very beginning they realized this was their challenge. there's no complacency about it. i don't think the mcauliffe camp is worried at all, but i think they're focused on this problem which they identified early as their chief challenge and they're trying to make sure that we have folks in state explaining to virginia voters
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why this race is so important so that we don't lose that kind of dropoff, which is traditional in a gubernatorial year. >> briefly, do you think terry mcauliffe wins? >> i do. i think we have a chance to sweep the three state-wide races for the first time since 1989. if we do that, andrea, what will happen is the three statewides and the two u.s. senators will be democrats for the first time since 1969. that is because of the changing nature of virginia's demographics and also the rejection of the sort of no compromise, pro-shutdown republican strategy, and the republican party fits into that wing of the party. we have a lot of work to do in the next week. >> tim kain, former governor, current senator, thank you very much. >> you bet. >> stay with us. congressman peter king joining me next. more on the spy controversy.
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as the u.s. has come under fire from the europeans for spying, congressman peter king is coming to the program's defense, saying that the president should stand with the nsa and not be apologizing. peter king is the former chair of the homeland security committee and joins me from capitol hill. good to see you again. >> thank you. >> there's a new story today denied by keith alexander that the nsa was able to crack into yahoo! and google's centers and collect data without permission. i don't know if that's without fisa permission or without permission of the companies. we have not confirmed any of this. as i said, keith alexander at a bloomberg conference has just denied it. do you know anything about this? >> no, and i have every reason to believe general alexander. so far virtually every story that's come out from the snowden leaks about the nsa has been proven either to be phoney or trivial. >> well, not the angela merkel
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leak for sure. there's been a lot that's been proved. what has not been proved or has been denied now is the mass data collection in spain and in france. that's been clarified over the last couple of days. >> i can't confirm whether or not angela merkel was being surveilled or not. but the nsa has been doing its job. the nsa has done more to protect germany than the german army has over the last 50 years. let's be real. in the world today, leaders are spied upon. they attempted it against our president, against our cabinet officials, against our leaders. going back into, you know, german history, when you had communist spies, officials in the government. you had schroder going back ten years ago. he and the russians were forming an alliance against president bush. this to me is legitimate. nobody likes to talk about it. nobody likes to brag about it.
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the fact is it goes on. i think there's a lot of phoney posturing going on and we should be defending the nsa. people talk about scandals, talk about the nsa as a rogue agency. that's nonsense. they're patriots doing their job. >> senator feinstein and senator collins have both said they were not briefed. shouldn't the intelligence committees be briefed about the personal phones of friendly foreign leaders being eavesdropped upon? >> well, as chairman rodgers said yesterday, we get briefings. anyone who wants to take the time can figure out. now, i cannot personally say anything about angela merkel. i have always relied on the presumption from documents can i've seen that world leaders are being surveilled, are being watched. how else when they give these psychological profiles, when they give a president a briefing before hand, before he's going to meet with a foreign leader, you know, where do they think this information comes from? for president obama to say that he knew nothing about it, if that's true, then he's very
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disengaged and certainly people around him and very close to him must have been told about it. i would like to know why they didn't tell him, how high up that goes. something like this is -- i agree with you to this extent. it has not only intelligence implications, it has diplomatic implications. to me, the people in the white house have to have known about it. i think it's wrong to somehow be throwing the nsa under the bus at this stage. >> to that point, we did an interview yesterday that was on "nightly news," that, in fact, national security officials all knew about this. if it's in the president's daily brief as the back-up data, the sources and methods, for instance, that's a question he can ask. if he didn't know, why wasn't he asking? >> that's exactly my point. the president either was told or should have known just by looking at the type of briefing materials he gets. when you get those materials, it makes it pretty specific that either the person's phone was being tapped, there's somebody very close to them who's confiding in us, or there's somehow documentation we've
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gotten ahold of. so the president, especially if he's told something significant, he would ask, how reliable is this? is it third-hand information? is it second-hand information? does it come directly from the source? listen, no one likes to think about the fact we're spying on allies or allies are spying on us. in the real word, this goes on. not because you think that person in particular may be dangerous to us. they could have information. they could be having a conversation that fits into an overall mosaic that could be helpful for us to find out what is happening in the world as far as our diplomatic and military leverage. i wish everybody would step back and just think about this and not be calling the nsa a rogue agency or somehow implying they're doing something that's wrong. if people want to change the policy, that's one thing. don't blame the nsa for it. >> peter king, thank you very much. >> andrea, thank you. >> thanks for being with us today. and news from the boy scouts. former defense second care robert gates has accepted a new
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